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1 Egregores & constructs on Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:11 pm

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What differences do you believe they have?
An egregore is a thoughtform, the difference is a construct was made by
one or multiple people with just energy and an egregore through conscious
or unconscious belief in an idea that manifests into the astral.

What do you guys think?


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2 Re: Egregores & constructs on Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:54 am

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AzurePhoenix wrote:What differences do you believe they have?
An egregore is a thoughtform, the difference is a construct was made by
one or multiple people with just energy and an egregore through conscious
or unconscious belief in an idea that manifests into the astral.

What do you guys think?

So a construct can't be made by unconscious belief in an idea?

3 Re: Egregores & constructs on Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:59 pm

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I am not sure about the construct being just energy without a belief beyond.
You have to believe you are able to do it, you put energy into it but you also use will and believe its working.
Someone once told me that if you are not able to control an egregor you should not be able to construct one.
Which should mean you can use a contstruct to make an entity. The part of not being able to make it when you cant control it is not true Razz

4 Re: Egregores & constructs on Wed Feb 22, 2012 4:30 pm

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Constructs can be built in a simple or very complex manner. The same goes for the egregore. Egregore has the meaning of thought form etched in to. Belief is major tool that is placed within both of them. The basis of belief can be debated upon. It is really a tool of various users. Psions will normally choose constructs over an egregore, while mages will choose the later. They have many similarities, but few differences.

Their similarities lie in the way in which they are built, transferring thought, collective persona, intent, etc.

Their differences lie in the complexity and personal use. Standard constructs become tools with only a set amount of persona from the creator. With only some being made as a specific purpose. While the egregore is specifically made for a personal errand or channeling. It is grafted from one's or a group's persona. This is why it is possible for it to lose itself to lower emotions.

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5 Re: Egregores & constructs on Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:55 pm

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That is exactly what I mean, when I create my egregors it is made with my persona, my persona is hard to control, as would my first egregors be. Its changed with time and experience though.
The more specific programming the better things work as Ive planned.
If that makes any sense, my apologies for the poor English Razz

6 Re: Egregores & constructs on Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:16 pm

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Heidica Northernlight wrote:That is exactly what I mean, when I create my egregors it is made with my persona, my persona is hard to control, as would my first egregors be. Its changed with time and experience though.
The more specific programming the better things work as Ive planned.
If that makes any sense, my apologies for the poor English Razz

Interesting, could you post some examples?
No need to apologize, you expressed yourself pretty well and got your point across well, at least well enough for me to understand.


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7 Re: Egregores & constructs on Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:13 pm

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For instance; The simplest egregors I use are small tad pole like beings which I allow to filter for me. I call them out when I need them to filter the energy I am feeding on, and also if there is someone physically sick close by. They are allowed only to feed on the non wanted energy, everything else goes to me, and they are only allowed to come when called during feedings. I was curious if feeding them physical illnesses could keep me from getting it myself, I have asthma and any contageous infection/bacteria will make me very sick. As a psi vampire I get reduced immunesystem when low on energy and its been a problem in the past that I catch everything that goes around. Which is very problematic when you work with people and patients Razz
After I started to use the tiny egregors I have been remarkably less sick, I have programmed them to automatically remove any illnesses , but they have to be called to be able to feed from my own feedings. So, these egregors do not sustain themselves on my energy at all really, and their only purpose is to filter.
Very simple but effective.

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